The Source of the Saying of Jesus "everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me"

Chapter III

The Sources of the Gospels and the Way of Writing Them

Section V

The Texts of the Old Testament, which were quoted during the Debates and the Arguments and the Dialogues in the Gospels

In this section we will examine some texts in the Gospels that contain debates and dialogues and arguments, in which the Gospels authors have cited texts from the Old Testament; to find out if these texts consistent with the Gospels and not contradicting with them, nor with the principles and the concepts and the texts of the Old Testament, and if the Gospels authors did not distort and manipulate them to serve what they believe, as we have seen in the previous sections how they have used the texts of the Old Testament to write their narratives to bestow a state of holiness and credibility and reliability on what they have written, away from the revelation and the Holy Spirit, or even the historical events; for this they have distorted and manipulated the texts of the Old Testament, whether by changing the meaning of them, or by adding some paragraphs, or by deleting others, or by writing some paragraphs that were not written in the Old Testament, or by writing some names and numbers that are inconsistent with what is written in the Old Testament, etc.

4 - The Source of the Saying of Jesus "everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me"

John 6:41 The Jews then complained about Him, because He said, "I am the bread which came down from heaven."

John 6:42 And they said, "Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How is it then that He says, ‘I have come down from heaven’?"

John 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said to them, "Do not murmur among yourselves.

John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:45 "It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God’. Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me.

John 6:46 "Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.

John 6:47 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.

John 6:48 "I am the bread of life.

John 6:49 "Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

John 6:50 "This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die.

John 6:51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world."

In this text we read dialogue between Jesus and the Jews, which has contained the words that were attributed to the Old Testament, and in which John has tried to prove that anyone who eats the flesh of Jesus will not die and will live forever, and the churches, as we know, still eat the flesh of Jesus and drink his blood by eating pieces of the bread with a little wine during hundreds of years, and each year many times; however, they die as the children of Israel died whom ate the manna in Sinai.

Thus, the death of the disciples and those who came after them raises doubts about the whole story. However, what matters in this dialogue is the saying of Jesus "It is written in the prophets, and they shall all be taught by God, therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me", and strikingly here is that the Gospels authors did not mention that some people have heard the words of the father of Jesus except three times.

The first time is at his baptism when was heard a voice from heaven, saying this my son, whom I love, and the one who heard this, if he had really heard, is John the Baptist, because Jesus in that time had not begun his preaching yet, however, John the Baptist has remained separate from Jesus, and did not come to him as he said in this text, even that John the Baptist at the end of his life before his death a few days was not sure of the attributes of Jesus, for this he has sent two disciples to ask him if he is the Messiah or not, as in the following texts:

Matthew 11:2 And when John had heard in prison about the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples

Matthew 11:3 and said to Him, "Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?"

Luke 7:18 Then the disciples of John reported to him concerning all these things.

Luke 7:19 And John, calling two of his disciples to him, sent them to Jesus, saying, "Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?"

Luke 7:20 When the men had come to Him, they said, "John the Baptist has sent us to You, saying, ‘Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another’?"

The second time that was heard the voice of the father of Jesus is in the story of the Transfiguration, when Jesus met with Moses and Elijah on a high mount, and there were with him Peter, James and John only, and heard one sentence as in the following texts:

Matthew 17:5 While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!"

Mark 9:5 Then Peter answered and said to Jesus, "Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; and let us make three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah" —

Mark 9:6 because he did not know what to say, for they were greatly afraid.

Mark 9:7 And a cloud came and overshadowed them; and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son. Hear Him!"

Mark 9:8 Suddenly, when they had looked around, they saw no one anymore, but only Jesus with themselves.

Luke 9:35 And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My beloved Son. Hear Him!"

Nevertheless, all of them have disowned him, and deserted him and fled, and Peter had cursed him, and all the disciples didn't believe that he rose from the dead! As in the following texts:

Matthew 26:31 Then Jesus said to them, "All of you will be made to stumble because of Me this night, for it is written: ‘I will strike the Shepherd, And the sheep of the flock will be scattered’.

Matthew 26:34 Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you that this night, before the rooster crows, you will deny Me three times."

Matthew 26:56 "But all this was done that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled." Then all the disciples forsook Him and fled.

Matthew 26:74 Then he began to curse and swear, saying, "I do not know the Man!" Immediately a rooster crowed.

Mark 16:11 And when they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her, they did not believe.

Luke 24:10 It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them, who told these things to the apostles.

Luke 24:11 And their words seemed to them like idle tales, and they did not believe them.

The third time that was heard the voice of the father of Jesus written in the Gospel of John only, which is as follows:

John 12:28 "Father, glorify Your name." Then a voice came from heaven, saying, "I have both glorified it and will glorify it again."

John 12:29 Therefore the people who stood by and heard it said that it had thundered. Others said, "An angel has spoken to Him."

John 12:30 Jesus answered and said, "This voice did not come because of Me, but for your sake.

And all these people whom were there and heard the voice also have forsaken Jesus and fled and did not come to him!

But if the churches said that the text meant to do the commandments of the Lord in the Old Testament, as well known to us that the churches did not keep them, as is shown earlier.

And if the churches said it means hearing Jesus' words and his teachings directly, as one of the three Persons who are one and have the same essence and nature, this will put them in a bigger problem than that tried to get out of it, because Jesus had remained three years preaching and teaching, and had heard his words to the hundreds of people while who came to him no more than a few dozen, so that some of his disciples after they heard  these words itself; had turned back and no longer came after him, and said this is a hard saying; who can understand it, as in the following text:

John 6:60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, "This is a hard saying; who can understand it?"

John 6:61 When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, "Does this offend you?

John 6:62 "What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before?

John 6:63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

John 6:64 "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him.

John 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."

John 6:66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.

However, the churches may say that the meaning is to do the commandments and the teachings of Jesus and not hearing the sound only, and this also is not the case with the disciples nor the churches, because they did not keep a lot of commandments and teachings of Jesus as shown in the book "Jesus the Son of Joseph the Carpenter ... Confusing Questions", including the following commandments:

Luke 14:25 Now great multitudes went with Him. And He turned and said to them,

Luke 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

Luke 14:27 "And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. 

Luke 14:28 "For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it —

Luke 14:29 "lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him,

Luke 14:30 "saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish’.

Luke 14:31 "Or what king, going to make war against another king, does not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand?

Luke 14:32 "Or else, while the other is still a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks conditions of peace.

Luke 14:33 "So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.

Luke 14:34 "Salt is good; but if the salt has lost its flavor, how shall it be seasoned?

Luke 14:35 "It is neither fit for the land nor for the dunghill, but men throw it out. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"

Could anyone say that the disciples and the churches have committed to these commandments, despite the fact that the disciples did not bear their crosses and come after him, but they ran away and left him alone and disowned him, and did not believe that he rose from the dead?

The text that quoted by John on the lips of Jesus is written in the book of Isaiah, which is as follows:

Isaiah 54:1 "Sing, O barren, You who have not borne! Break forth into singing, and cry aloud, You who have not labored with child! For more are the children of the desolate Than the children of the married woman," says the LORD.

Isaiah 54:2 "Enlarge the place of your tent, And let them stretch out the curtains of your dwellings; Do not spare; Lengthen your cords, And strengthen your stakes.

Isaiah 54:3 For you shall expand to the right and to the left, And your descendants will inherit the nations, And make the desolate cities inhabited.

Isaiah 54:4 "Do not fear, for you will not be ashamed; Neither be disgraced, for you will not be put to shame; For you will forget the shame of your youth, And will not remember the reproach of your widowhood anymore.

Isaiah 54:5 For your Maker is your husband, The LORD of hosts is His name; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel; He is called the God of the whole earth.

Isaiah 54:6 For the LORD has called you Like a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, Like a youthful wife when you were refused," Says your God.

Isaiah 54:7 "For a mere moment I have forsaken you, But with great mercies I will gather you.

Isaiah 54:8 With a little wrath I hid My face from you for a moment; But with everlasting kindness I will have mercy on you," Says the LORD, your Redeemer.

Isaiah 54:9 "For this is like the waters of Noah to Me; For as I have sworn That the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, So have I sworn That I would not be angry with you, nor rebuke you.

Isaiah 54:10 For the mountains shall depart And the hills be removed, But My kindness shall not depart from you, Nor shall My covenant of peace be removed," Says the LORD, who has mercy on you.

Isaiah 54:11 "O you afflicted one, Tossed with tempest, and not comforted, Behold, I will lay your stones with colorful gems, And lay your foundations with sapphires.

Isaiah 54:12 I will make your pinnacles of rubies, Your gates of crystal, And all your walls of precious stones.

Isaiah 54:13 All your children shall be taught by the LORD, And great shall be the peace of your children.

Isaiah 54:14 In righteousness you shall be established; You shall be far from oppression, for you shall not fear; And from terror, for it shall not come near you.

Isaiah 54:15 Indeed they shall surely assemble, but not because of Me. Whoever assembles against you shall fall for your sake.

Isaiah 54:16 "Behold, I have created the blacksmith Who blows the coals in the fire, Who brings forth an instrument for his work; And I have created the spoiler to destroy.

Isaiah 54:17 No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their righteousness is from Me," Says the LORD.

This chapter contains the paragraph which has been quoted by John, and who can say that it was talking about Jerusalem in Jesus' time, or even about the disciples?

From all of the above, we note that John had used the text of the Old Testament to serve what he believes, regardless of whether what he has written contrary to what is written in the other Gospels, or even with his Gospel, as is the way or the method or the approach of writing the Gospels, to bestow a state of holiness and credibility and reliability on his Gospel, for this I can say that the law "do not accept the lying and false" applies to the text of John.